Sun, 23 October 2005 In this special hour long episode, David takes an in-depth look at Apple's new imaging application Aperture, and decides that Apple was indeed correct in stating that it's a companion, not a competitor, to Photoshop. Learn the good, bad and ugly about Aperture, and compete for a copy of Ben Willmore's "Photoshop CS2: Up to Speed" book (published by Peachpit Press) in this week's Photoshop trivia contest. Comments[173] |
I like that Aperture isn't a competitor to Photoshop because I've already paid for Photoshop, plus 2 upgrades, and I want to get my money's worth. I think your idea of a separate ligtbox app from Apple would be great if it also had basic management capability. You mentioned printing in your show. Would I be able to print "quick and dirty" 4x6 prints from Aperture? My one gripe with Photoshop/Bridge is I first have to do a conversion to JPEG (for example), open is Photoshop, print and delete. I only want to keep my "picks" as Layered PSD files.
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posted by: Keith Fox on Tue, 10/25 09:35 AM EDT
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It's an interview with Aperture's product manager, Joe Schorr. The vibe you get from him is that Apple *is* aiming at Photoshop. Aperture looks great, but this interview is a bit unsettling.
http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/23554.html
It's an interview with Aperture's product manager, Joe Schorr. The vibe you get from him is that Apple *is* aiming at Photoshop. Aperture looks great, but this interview is a bit unsettling.
Yeah, it's very likely just a matter of time before Apple decides to add the stuff missing from Aperture to take it more into Photoshop territory - especially if Adobe drags with the next version of Photoshop, as they've done with Elements on the Mac.
I find it doubtful that Adobe would drag their feet on Mac Photoshop. I don't know how the number of Mac copies compares with the number of PC copies out there, but it seems the majority of designers are on Mac. To ignore that would be a big mistake. I can see them lagging behind on developing Elements for the Mac, because their huge Mac customer base is likely *not* working with Elements. That's for someone who's doing family photos on a $800 Dell or HP at home.
For Adobe, a good offense is the best defense. They need to bolster the killer aps they have to make it senseless for anyone to try to compete with them. That's what has keep Photoshop on top all these years, after all.
For Adobe, a good offense is the best defense. They need to bolster the killer aps they have to make it senseless for anyone to try to compete with them. That's what has keep Photoshop on top all these years, after all.
Clint - you might be right, but a couple of things to consider:
- There are LOTS of Mac folk with imacs, ibooks and other low end Macs, who do indeed use Elements on a daily basis, and they're concerned about the lack of an update of Elements for the Mac, or a clear timeframe from Adobe on when this will happen.
- While I agree that it's critical for Adobe to keep the Mac version of Photoshop current, I've also been surprised by the number of people doing digital photography who are Windows-based. I was recently talking to the folks at the Long Island Photoshop users group, and I was shocked to discover that something like 90% of their members are using Windows boxes.
- I don't think Adobe saw this development coming, and they've been known to castigate Apple in the past (witness the fate of Premiere once Apple released Final Cut Pro).
I'm primarily Mac-based (though I do indeed have more than a couple of Windows boxes), and I think that color calibration is WAY more doable on a Mac, so believe me, the LAST thing I want to see is Photoshop get delayed on the Mac side, much less vanish altogether.
- There are LOTS of Mac folk with imacs, ibooks and other low end Macs, who do indeed use Elements on a daily basis, and they're concerned about the lack of an update of Elements for the Mac, or a clear timeframe from Adobe on when this will happen.
- While I agree that it's critical for Adobe to keep the Mac version of Photoshop current, I've also been surprised by the number of people doing digital photography who are Windows-based. I was recently talking to the folks at the Long Island Photoshop users group, and I was shocked to discover that something like 90% of their members are using Windows boxes.
- I don't think Adobe saw this development coming, and they've been known to castigate Apple in the past (witness the fate of Premiere once Apple released Final Cut Pro).
I'm primarily Mac-based (though I do indeed have more than a couple of Windows boxes), and I think that color calibration is WAY more doable on a Mac, so believe me, the LAST thing I want to see is Photoshop get delayed on the Mac side, much less vanish altogether.
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I found your podcast on Aperture very informative with one major exception. You did not address in any way shape or form the quality of the processed image. And after all that is really the single most important thing! Anyone who is doing this type of work knows that every processing software does a better / worse job than other pieces of software. I would love to hear you address this issue with Aperture, relative to..say.. Adobe's Camera Raw or even better, Phase One's Capture One Pro...
I found your podcast on Aperture very informative with one major exception. You did not address in any way shape or form the quality of the processed image. And after all that is really the single most important thing! Anyone who is doing this type of work knows that every processing software does a better / worse job than other pieces of software. I would love to hear you address this issue with Aperture, relative to..say.. Adobe's Camera Raw or even better, Phase One's Capture One Pro...
posted by: Dana Hursey on Fri, 11/11 05:22 PM EST
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The only way to really make some judgements about Aperture's processing quality is to spend some hands-on time with it, which I definitely plsn on doing once it's released. As far as importance issues and priorities, I agree that the output is the key issue, which is why I expressed concerns about the lack of a densitometer. Once I get a chance to put Aperture through some work, I'll be in a better position to comment on quality. Thanks for listening!
The only way to really make some judgements about Aperture's processing quality is to spend some hands-on time with it, which I definitely plsn on doing once it's released. As far as importance issues and priorities, I agree that the output is the key issue, which is why I expressed concerns about the lack of a densitometer. Once I get a chance to put Aperture through some work, I'll be in a better position to comment on quality. Thanks for listening!
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